Now, We see Dr. Dill for Oncology and Dr. Zakhireh for Surgery.
I am not used to this! With my last cancer journey I just had one doctor. Dr. Santoso was my surgical oncologist and I saw him from start to finish. At first, I feel a little nervous about this. Its that whole “Too many chiefs and not enough Indians” thing. I am worried that one is going to want to do one thing and the other has something else in mind. I am overwhelmed.
August 8, 2021-
First up is Dr. Dill. My mom and hubby are at my appointment with me. He comes in and introduces himself to all of us. I cant speak for the rest of my family, but I was ready to get down to business. He asked me how I was feeling and I told him I was actually doing ok but ready to understand all of this and get the ball rolling on putting a plan in place to get this stuff out of me!
He explains the basics about what Ductal Carcinoma is and walks us through the results.
If you remember I had 3 areas Biopsied-
The 11:00 Mass (The large one that I found)
This is the Invasive Ductal Carcinoma Area. (Going forward this will be abbreviated IDC) This means that the cancer cells have formed within the milk duct but has spread to the tissue outside of the duct.
The 2:00 Mass (The area I can not feel that was found during the ultrasound on mammogram day)
This area is Ductal Carcinoma In Situ. (Going forward this will be abbreviated DCIS) This means that the cancer cells are forming inside of the duct but have not spread through out the walls of the duct.
The Lymph Node
This area came back benign with no signs of cancer cells.

So we have some GREAT news and some not so great news. Great that the cancer does not seem to be in my lymphatic system. Good that some of the area that has calcification is still in confined within the duct. But unfortunately there is an area where the cells have broken through the ductile wall and into the outside tissue. He explains that we are going to focus on the IDC Area because it is the most advanced. He explains the Estrogen and Progesterone receptors and tells me that basically tells us what route to take with treatment options. He explains that the Ki67 index for this area is rated at 52.78%. This is a scale from 0-100 that tells us how fast the cancer cells are multiplying. 52% is moderate but faster than he likes. We are going to move on this fast.
He says he wants to do chemo first. I know, Your first thought is “Why aren’t we going to do surgery and get this our first and use chemo for clean up”?!?! He wants to do chemo before removing the invasive mass because he needs to see how the cancer cells respond to the chemo. The cancer cells are shedding little bitty singular cells all the time. These singular cells are completely undetectable on scans and can be anywhere in my body. The mass of cells will be our guide as to what chemo regimen (There are several) my cancer cells are most responsive to. If we start on one and the cells are not responding like he wants, we can see that and change it. This will give us the best chance of the right chemo cleaning up any of those singular cells that has traveled to other places in my body. The way I see it, If we remove the cancer first, when its time to do chemo we will just be guessing and hoping that the chemo regimen we choose is the right one. You can’t treat what you don’t know is there.
I explain that I understand. My family concurs. He looks at me and says
I’m going to make you a really sick gal!
I’m fully aware of this! I’ve done a lot of research. I have seen this sick before. He starts to go into the two different chemo regimens he is thinking of for my plan. One is Taxol and the other is Adriamycin and Cyclophosphamide (AC). The type of chemo can not be decided until the HeR2 Receptor status is decided to be positive or negative. (If you remember from my previous post, the HeR2 status was indeterminate) It has been sent off for what they call the FISH test for final result of positive or negative.
If HeR2 is Negative we will do Taxol for 5 Months (once a week treatments)
If HeR2 is Positive we will do AC for 4.5 Months (Once every other week treatments)
Wow! 5 month… That is a really long time. This is a shock. I am in shock. By the time I am feeling better from one treatment its going to be time for the next one. And we are basically talking half a calendar year. I start to get a little freaked out.
When you know you are going to be sick for this long you start thinking about how to keep your day to day life as normal as possible so that your whole life doesn’t resolve around being sick. You also think about the financial impact for that length of time. So I ask the question “What does being able to work during this time look like?” He explains that most people have only been successful at this with really understanding bosses and that can primarily work from home. CHECK AND CHECK!

For me, working is part of my happy place. My team is important to me. My work matters and helps put food on my teams tables. It is part of my normal.
So we know next step options and we know we are waiting on the FISH test results for HeR2. Because my family and I have agreed to follow the treatment path he has recommended we have some tests we need to do to get ready for chemo.
I have releases I need to sign so that they can start getting chemo approved with insurance.
I need an Echocardiogram scheduled. (To make sure my heart is strong enough for the chemo)
I need an MRI of the Breast scheduled. (To get a better image of the area and for proper staging)
I need to be scheduled for Genetic Testing.
And last but not least…. We need to be scheduled for a Port to placed.
My poor mom starts crying. This part scares her. I tried to ease her mind and explain that this will be there to make things easier for me but I’m not sure how much it helped.
I asked Dr. Dill why I need to see Dr. Zakhireh now if we are not doing surgery for several months. He explains to me that she is part of his team. She is going to help him with a lot of different things throughout this process. She will be the one that inserts my port and many other things. I confess that the multiple doctors at the same time was a little overwhelming. He explains to me that this is not anything that will cause me stress. He said that this is to my benefit because it means that basically we have a whole team of doctors looking at and discussing my case. They meet every Thursday morning as a group and discuss their cases. My picture and case log will go up on the screen and they will discuss how things are going and how to best continue moving forward.
How awesome is THAT! It definitely made me feel better and more important if I’m being honest.
OK! Next up Dr. Zakhireh


















